-Florinda Donner Grau, Berlin Tensegrity Workshop, Friday June 27,1997
"Shamans are not spiritual beings. DJ was not, CC is even less. Sorcerers are interested in everything. DJ always told us that we are beings who have the capacity to perceive, that is never weakened. We are perceivers. We cannot understand on an intellectual level. We all have the capacity to let our awareness grow. It's sleeping, we can awaken it with the magical movements and recapitulation. It's abstract, not awareness of the "me". Not the awareness of daily life."